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Marshea Pratt: Hello everyone good afternoon or good evening, depending on what time zone you're in welcome to the Di dialogue hosted by the University committee for diversity equity and inclusion.

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Marshea Pratt: i'm really excited to have the honor of presenting our keynote speaker for this session, my name is marsha Pratt and i'm The co chair for the ucb I committee so i'm going to do my best to do our speaker justice with this bio.

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Marshea Pratt: Professor entertainer co teaches global loitering skills one and two reproductive rights and justice and in the prisoner civil rights mediation clinic.

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Marshea Pratt: Professor co has extensive experience in the public and private sectors, working on prisoner civil rights and habeas corpus cases.

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Marshea Pratt: So you have also led the charge and proactive policy efforts to reduce racial and ethnic disparities and reproductive health care.

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Marshea Pratt: Professor ko's research is focused on reproductive rights and justice, Professor co has also published works related to alternative dispute resolution and cultural competency in the legal profession.

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Marshea Pratt: In 2020 Professor co received the Julie, a devious professor of the year award in addition to teaching her students, the skills they need.

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Marshea Pratt: To be highly effective attorneys and advocates Professor coast strives to instill in them, the importance of public service and professionalism.

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Marshea Pratt: Professor co graduated cum laude from georgetown university law Center and Magna cum laude from the University of California Berkeley.

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Marshea Pratt: where she majored in political science Professor co is a member of the California bar, as well as the district of Columbia bar, it is my pleasure to turn over the virtual microphone to Professor Co.

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Ederlina Co: Thank you, thank you to the university committee for diversity equity and inclusion, thank you to assistant director marcia Pratt and Dean Tracy simmons for inviting me to speak here today, and thank you all for being here for this talk.

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Ederlina Co: On the case for diversity equity and inclusion in the legal profession it's so nice to see you all here today.

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Ederlina Co: So when marsha and I initially started having a conversation about this talk I suggested that we focus on the movement to diversify the federal bench in light of the new Biden administration.

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Ederlina Co: And there's no question that diversifying the federal bench is an urgent matter and it's worthy of a critical dialogue.

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Ederlina Co: Particularly in light of how it relates to our civil rights and civil liberties, but in light of recent events, we decided to shift the focus of this talk some.

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Ederlina Co: As you all know, last week a gunman entered multiple Asian businesses in Atlanta and shot and killed eight innocent people six of whom are Asian were Asian Women.

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Ederlina Co: This shooting which was really rattled the API community has left many afraid and wondering whether further violence is forthcoming.

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Ederlina Co: Because the shooting didn't happen in isolation, rather it followed a rapid rise in hate crimes against the API community in the United States since the pandemic began.

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Ederlina Co: So this week I happened to be reading an article about the eight victims, and one of the families of one of the victims, had said.

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Ederlina Co: You know, we just want justice to be done and we're hopeful that it will be, and as a member of the legal profession right that made me very proud.

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Ederlina Co: To be an attorney to be sort of associated with the administration of justice, but it also made me a little bit concerned about whether or not the legal profession was going to be able to deliver.

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Ederlina Co: For this family and for all of the families involved and for the API community more broadly.

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Ederlina Co: And, in particular, I think, when you look at the Atlanta case whether you look at it from kind of a big picture, or wide angle lens or you look at it more closely.

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Ederlina Co: I think both pictures make clear what I want to talk with you about today, which is both the value, as well as the need for diversity equity and inclusion in the legal profession.

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Ederlina Co: So I think a lot about whether justice is delivered or denied, especially in the eyes of many communities of color.

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Ederlina Co: is not just based on whether or not the assailant is captured convicted and sentenced and the Atlanta case right the assailant has been captured.

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Ederlina Co: he's confessed to his role in the shootings and at some point he will be sentenced, but I think what's going to weigh pretty heavily on the scales is bigger than that right we we are a society of laws, but we're also as a society that abides by certain principles and strives to ensure.

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Ederlina Co: An orderly and just society, and I think of particular importance to us as we strive to ensure that everyone is treated equally under law and that everyone is held accountable under the same laws.

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Ederlina Co: In that vein, I think we like to assume right and we uphold law as neutral as objective as fair, but we also know that you know law is made it is interpreted as an enforced.

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Ederlina Co: by human beings who are anything but neutral and objective right and therefore not as fair as much as we may strive to be.

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Ederlina Co: Right every person's personal background their own lived experience is going to inevitably affect how they view people and experiences that come before them.

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Ederlina Co: And everyone's personal beliefs right whether conscious or unconscious they are going to affect and influence their decision making.

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Ederlina Co: And so will the parties in the Atlanta case be treated equally and will they be held accountable under the same laws.

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Ederlina Co: I think, like many people i've actually began to question that already in light of the way that the case has started to unfold.

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Ederlina Co: And for all of you right you don't have to agree with me, but I would encourage you, for purposes of this talk to.

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Ederlina Co: begin to critically examine what's going on with that case, particularly the way in which public officials, many of whom are members of the legal profession or law enforcement, the way that they're handling the case.

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Ederlina Co: critically examine the ways in which people with access to public platforms and the media, the way that they're telling the story about the case.

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Ederlina Co: and pay attention to the ways in which communities and society at large begin to.

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Ederlina Co: take steps after the case right when the dust settles does it look like we're moving in a direction that's going to avoid repeating this this this case repeating itself.

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Ederlina Co: right when you recognize that everyone's personal background and lived experience is going to influence decision making ask yourself.

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Ederlina Co: Whether or not increase diversity equity inclusion in the legal profession, particularly in these positions of power would make a difference here.

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Ederlina Co: I think there are three big picture ways to look at this case and not having to be law trained how to look at it through a di lens right first, I think.

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Ederlina Co: You can look at the assailant how are we treating the gunman and the case are we treating him with a presumption of credibility and believability are we portraying him as a victim in this case within hours of him being captured the narrative was about him.

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Ederlina Co: Having a sex addiction, or that he was having a particularly bad day and Would he be treated any differently if his race were different.

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Ederlina Co: Or you can also look at the victims in this case.

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Ederlina Co: Are they being cast with stereotypes typical of Asian Women are there is their character being called into question and light of where they worked.

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Ederlina Co: And would they be trade any differently if their race, were different.

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Ederlina Co: And then, finally, I think you can look at the crimes, how are we classifying crimes, and how are we talking about the crimes are we talking about them as hate crimes right crimes, based on the victim sex.

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Ederlina Co: Crimes based on the victims, race, are we even going to try and have a discussion about the intersection ality that's in play here right in light of the fact that.

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Ederlina Co: Many of the victims were women of color are we going to try and start a discussion or have an acknowledgement of racialized sexism or or gendered racism are we going to treat these crimes purely as colorblind.

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Ederlina Co: I think, for those of you who prefer to take a closer look at the case.

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Ederlina Co: I think there are three ways that you can absorb the case through a di lens to also you know again without having a lot of your being law trained.

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Ederlina Co: The first way is to look at the law itself right legal actors wrote the law and look particularly at george's new hate crimes law if there weren't.

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Ederlina Co: You know, recognition of the importance of diversity, equity and inclusion Georgia would be one of the four states still without a hate crimes law.

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Ederlina Co: And so, Georgia only passed that law last year in response to a marbury's killing last summer.

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Ederlina Co: Another way that you can look at it is with respect to the prosecution look and see what is the prosecution doing in this case and in any case, the prosecution has very wide discretion.

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Ederlina Co: In terms of how they charge the defendant they've here they've charged the defendant with murder already, but the the more relevant inquiry, I think, for di purposes is going to be whether or not they charge him with a hate crime.

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Ederlina Co: And then, of course, you can watch and see how they plea bargain, the case or whether or not the case, goes to trial when the prosecution engaged gay engages in plea bargain they'll have wide latitude to decide what to charge the defendant with and what the sentence looks like.

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Ederlina Co: And then finally look at the judge right look at the judges who are involved in the case when the cases get underway, judges, there are real consequences for underrepresented litigants and victims, especially in cases where race and sex or playing a role.

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Ederlina Co: judges who are members of historically underrepresented groups, they are.

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Ederlina Co: More equipped and able to draw on their life experiences so they're more readily able to identify racial injustices when they are at issue.

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Ederlina Co: So, having racial ethnic and gender diversity on the bench has been shown to positively affect judicial decision making right It balances out the biases in judicial decision making it allows for more fair and even handed decisions to be made.

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Ederlina Co: Judge toshima who's who's a senior judge on the US Court of Appeals for the ninth circuit he talks about the way that his life.

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Ederlina Co: Experience influences or impacts his judicial decision making right he was his family was incarcerated in a US internment camp.

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Ederlina Co: During World War Two and so he talks about how that influences the way that he looks at the federal government's representations and motives, in particular cases.

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Ederlina Co: And so, when you're looking at the Atlanta case and how it unfolds, whether you look at it from a wide lens or more narrow lens I hope you begin to see how diversity equity and inclusion play a role, and how decision making can be enhanced or diminished.

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Ederlina Co: By who you know who is in these positions of power.

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Ederlina Co: So, by virtue of the fact that you're all out a di talk on a Friday afternoon I i'm assuming that some of what i've said, has resonated with you.

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Ederlina Co: And that many of you are probably wondering your heads well what What role do I play right What role do I play as either a student or faculty Member or staff members Pacific and and i'll just conclude my remarks with offering you a couple of thoughts about that.

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Ederlina Co: First, you know with respect to the Atlanta shooting I would encourage you to check in with your API students your colleagues your friends.

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Ederlina Co: i'm someone who, as marcia mentioned at the beginning of this i'm someone who's devoted.

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Ederlina Co: significant part of my career to advancing abortion rights, and given that level of controversy surrounding that issue I operate already with a healthy dose of caution right but I don't think i've ever.

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Ederlina Co: experienced the level of hesitation grounded in fear on speaking out on that issue than I did this week, and it was because of the shootings right, I had been offered a.

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Ederlina Co: Publication offer on an article about abortion, that I wrote and I put it on Twitter and I said, you know oh yeah i'm publishing this article on abortion and I immediately deleted it.

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Ederlina Co: Because in that moment, I thought this is not the right time to be an outspoken Asian woman on.

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Ederlina Co: a controversial issue and later in the day I tweeted it again and I decided that you know what it's actually more important to have Asian women's voices out there.

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Ederlina Co: it's more important to have voices out there than fear in this moment, and so it is out there, but I tell you this story just to.

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Ederlina Co: underscore for you, that the fear that people are experiencing right now is real and it's a cute and it's and it's unsettling so check in with your friends and your colleagues.

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Ederlina Co: I know that marcia and the CD I have formed a committee that will be responding to API students on campus I know that Dean sollecito at.

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Ederlina Co: mcgeorge along with gene simmons are planning a check in on April 1 that everyone will be invited to sign encourage your students to attend that but check in on people and then Second, I would say.

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Ederlina Co: You know, stay informed and get involved right a lot of people right now in response to the shooting are pointing.

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Ederlina Co: The finger at Donald trump and blaming him for his rhetoric and connection with the coronavirus and there's no question that his racial hostility has played a role in this.

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Ederlina Co: But I think, also a big contributor is not just the racial hostility, but the racial indifference right that has allowed these hate crimes to take place and that has allowed an environment.

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Ederlina Co: to become right for hate crimes, so please stay informed and get involved, and then, on the other end of this talk, you know, in terms of diversity equity inclusion.

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Ederlina Co: The two things i'll quickly say about that are when we have a pipeline problem.

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Ederlina Co: Right, there are not enough students of color entering into law school and and therefore being able to enter into these positions of power to play a role.

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Ederlina Co: Of course, you know a lot of students are inspired to go to law school because of people they know.

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Ederlina Co: Who are lawyers or who are judges and that puts underrepresented groups at a disadvantage when you consider that 85% of the legal profession has white right they're just not represented.

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Ederlina Co: i'm thankful that you know affinity bar associations are leading the way to create pipelines and that admissions teams at law schools, including at mcgeorge are reaching out to students as youngest high school.

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Ederlina Co: To try to get them thinking about law as a career and then Second, I would say, of course, we need to just be mindful of creating.

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Ederlina Co: An environment for when students of color do come into law school right now there exists a number of institutional obstacles to their success and their ability to take jobs.

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Ederlina Co: in positions of power, I know this because I have students who tell me about it.

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Ederlina Co: And so, whether it's you know dealing with students who are you know harassing them are discriminating against them, or whether it's dealing with professors who.

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Ederlina Co: fail to consider important nuances or unique circumstances of communities of color and their discussions in the classroom.

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Ederlina Co: it's all it's all becoming you know it's all problematic in terms of increasing diversity equity inclusion in the legal profession, and of course we can prioritize hiring diverse faculty as well as faculty who are committed to anti racism and doing that work and just creating.

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Ederlina Co: A culture of inclusion in our classrooms and our institutions right, I think we see diversity.

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Ederlina Co: we've been better about thinking about diversity and hiring and admissions right that's a function of the success story of affirmative action.

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Ederlina Co: But now I think we need to have a greater focus on inclusion and being sure that students do feel like they're able to contribute fully and effectively in the classroom so.

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Ederlina Co: Let me close by just saying thank you, I hope that this has given you some food for thought in terms of the importance of diversity equity inclusion.

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Ederlina Co: In the legal profession, how vital it is to the administration of justice and to public confidence and I hope it's given you some food for thought in terms of how we move forward as individuals and as specific instance right, so thank you for your time your attention and your solidarity.

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Marshea Pratt: Thank you so much, Professor code, those of you that really appreciate it Professor co she wouldn't mind seeing a few emojis of appreciation if you're able to push those buttons I would appreciate that.

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Ederlina Co: Thank you.

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Marshea Pratt: very similar to last month's dei dialogue we want to have have a lion's share of our time spent in discussion with one another in small groups.

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Marshea Pratt: And so, our facilitators have been pre assigned to breakout rooms, the rest of you will be invited to join one, it would be great if you can turn on your video, but if not you're welcome to still participate and just.

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Marshea Pratt: unmute as you feel led in the discussion time and then we'll return back to the main room for some final thoughts.

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Marshea Pratt: And some information about our next speaker on April 22, so we will see you in a smaller breakout room shortly.

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Marshea Pratt: Alright, everyone welcome back everyone that I don't know about the rest of you, but our time.

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Marshea Pratt: It was a wonderful time I hope you all enjoyed getting to know each other better and talking.

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Marshea Pratt: To just give us one nugget.

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Marshea Pratt: If you can your your your best nugget of sharing that took place, and then we will close, just to be respectful of people's time because we do want to end by 430 or close to it, so I will start with Professor hallberg I don't See you in my squares I know you're here i'm here.

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Laura Hallberg (she/her/hers): I don't know that we have a nugget we were lucky enough to have Professor co in our group so.

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Laura Hallberg (she/her/hers): Ah, the we just sort of sat in off of you know all that she was sharing with us.

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Laura Hallberg (she/her/hers): Ah, helped me out folks I hector I did like we talked about so many wonderful things.

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Hector (he,him): yeah I think your last question really, really nailed the you know the point.

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Hector (he,him): In the way you asked it.

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Marshea Pratt: If you want to share that, with all of us.

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Laura Hallberg (she/her/hers): So, so we we were talking about like encouraging more more students of color to enter the law profession and I asked what sort of systemic things need to happen because we're talking about the like the l sat and the cost of law school.

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Laura Hallberg (she/her/hers): And, and so, how do we, how do we change the system so that it's it's not just diversifying but it's creating a sense of belonging for students and encouraging folks to go into the law profession and then Professor ko's answer got.

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Laura Hallberg (she/her/hers): was cut off because we were wrapping things up so.

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Laura Hallberg (she/her/hers): I think it definitely gave us all food for thought, certainly.

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Laura Hallberg (she/her/hers): To think about the systemic changes that need to happen excellent.

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Marshea Pratt: Excellent alright, we will move to the next group with Elizabeth trainer.

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Elizabeth Trayner: We had a very rich conversation so to to narrow it down to one nugget is hard to do, but I think one of the the themes that we talked about was definitely that that diversification of.

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Elizabeth Trayner: The legal system, but then also thinking about the the pipeline to the legal system and thinking about how.

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Elizabeth Trayner: When we're talking about.

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Elizabeth Trayner: People feeling comfortable enough reaching out through the legal system and and that might not feel accessible for folks whether it's because of language or not, or not being documented or.

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Elizabeth Trayner: Whatever the case, might be that makes it so that it's less than safe for somebody to feel like they can gain access so trying to reduce some of those barriers, making sure that people understand the.

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Elizabeth Trayner: translators can be accessed.

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Elizabeth Trayner: The training of law enforcement officers, as well as the legal profession, but sometimes the way that you gain access is through the through law enforcement, so all of those pieces and I know I didn't do justice to the rich conversation that we had.

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Marshea Pratt: Thank you so much.

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Marshea Pratt: I was in a breakout room as well, and our conversation ran the gamut, so I am also challenged with coming up with one nugget However, I will try to.

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Marshea Pratt: To put it all together, and that is our group definitely felt like we need to be more informed about these issues.

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Marshea Pratt: And we need to leverage the rights that we that we have available to us in terms of serving on juries as well as exercising our right to vote and reviewing the different judges that are up.

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Marshea Pratt: On the ballot and reading through their qualifications and past judgments that they've made etc, and not just focusing on their.

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Marshea Pratt: political affiliation it or activity if that's known that it takes more than that to to determine if someone is worthy of having that title.

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Marshea Pratt: on the bench and protecting the civil rights of citizens, so we really talked about being individually responsible for that as well as in terms of keeping the Di conversation going for us to perhaps commit to.

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Marshea Pratt: Looking at one of our someone in our network who wouldn't normally come to a car to a conversation like this and invite them to come and be with us and have them be our plus one.

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Marshea Pratt: and continue to do that, throughout our network, so we can start having this conversation with larger and larger groups of folks, though.

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Marshea Pratt: about what we discussed Professor code, do you have some parting thoughts that you would like to share, since you were able to stay with us for for a bit.

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Ederlina Co: I just wanted to say thank you again to everybody who came to this talk on a Friday afternoon, and thank you so much for your commitment to these issues right we don't.

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Ederlina Co: We don't we don't make progress by suffering in silence or by sitting on our hands on this right it's got to be a concerted effort it's got to be a proactive effort and.

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Ederlina Co: That happens in these spaces and having meetings and having discussions like this, so I thank you for your time and I thank you for your commitment to these issues.

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Marshea Pratt: yeah so we thank you for being here and to opening our eyes to a lot of things, giving us some good food for thought.

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Marshea Pratt: Are there any other thoughts that people care to share in the chat or to unmute and share at this time, we have a couple of minutes left for anyone that wanted to just share our parting thought.

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Steven Whyte, Director of Events & Ceremonies: or che can I share something.

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Steven Whyte, Director of Events & Ceremonies: I just want to say that one of the greatest assets of these programs is the educational part of it.

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Steven Whyte, Director of Events & Ceremonies: You know, without education we're.

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Steven Whyte, Director of Events & Ceremonies: All ignorance and it's until we have the opportunity to see various aspects of life and what goes on around us, then we can't address things like this, so.

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Steven Whyte, Director of Events & Ceremonies: Thanks to Mr shea and the the I grew up for putting these on and educating those of us i'll put myself right at the problem line i've learned so much during these things so kudos to all of you.

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Marshea Pratt: Thank you so much for that and I have the distinct honor of sharing who are April 22.

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Marshea Pratt: Bi dialogue presenter will be, it will be none other than our new Vice President of diversity, equity and inclusion Dr Mary wardell gear a doozy you will not want to miss it 3:30pm Pacific.

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Marshea Pratt: daylight time right here in the same zoom room you'll be able to see the information and link at calendar pacific.edu and just search for.

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Marshea Pratt: Diversity equity and inclusion on April 22 and you can just join that day and be a part of these discussions, we are so grateful for your time your energy your thoughts.

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Marshea Pratt: Today, and we hope that we can continue to partner with all of you towards our goal of becoming the top anti racist institution in the nation, and with that I will bid you good day and have a wonderful weekend.